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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2020, 12:47:50 pm »
@bplus: When doing the Samples Gallery I am aiming to include at least 1 superior program from all high contributors.  It seems only fair.

Absolutely, for Samples.

@Qwerkey, Sorry, I should clarify, I am referring to the Games Board that Ashish wants his first Hunter Game entered. I am thinking you might be reluctant to consider because he has a marvelous Sample already.

But for Games a whole other board, we could allow everyone one, their best (or even someone else as long as we don't have that yet.) That seems both fair and a chance for everyone to offer a demo of their stuff (and that way, we you, STxAxTIC and I don't have to judge one over another because the idea of that gives me ulcers. Look at TerryRitchie's set, you can choose one?)
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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2020, 01:22:03 pm »
@bplus I think that we are in agreement.  At least 1 in Samples and 1 in Games.  But we defer to The Librarian.  I am hoping that The Librarian will lay a couple of ground rules for us.  It will be what he (or she: this nebulous personality we don't know!) wants.

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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2020, 01:40:23 pm »
Whoa boys.

I'm on the road today and may not be reading very carefully but the sense I'm getting is you want to bypass the stringent filtration process and just let people nominate their favorite program. No. No explicit voting either. This approach completely misunderstands why we have a Programs board in the first place. That is the arena where are things are decided. Let me remind too that any code that ends up on our curated boards must pass through Programs first.

Taking Terry's list as an example, I'd say probably 90% of it is polished and ready. And suddenly we have to choose one? Nope. This isnt a place where we should feel overwhelmed by some coders being more prolific than others. We arent here to be fair to the members, we are being fair to the readers. Let's offer only the best.
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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2020, 01:54:16 pm »
@STxAxTIC Thanks, we're certainly going to be stringent.  We'll do the tasks nice and gently.

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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2020, 02:31:16 pm »
Whoa boys.

I'm on the road today and may not be reading very carefully but the sense I'm getting is you want to bypass the stringent filtration process and just let people nominate their favorite program. No. No explicit voting either. This approach completely misunderstands why we have a Programs board in the first place. That is the arena where are things are decided. Let me remind too that any code that ends up on our curated boards must pass through Programs first.

Taking Terry's list as an example, I'd say probably 90% of it is polished and ready. And suddenly we have to choose one? Nope. This isnt a place where we should feel overwhelmed by some coders being more prolific than others. We arent here to be fair to the members, we are being fair to the readers. Let's offer only the best.

@STxAxTIC

OK but then I strongly recommend putting the new Games board as another Child Board of Samples.

Maybe Toolbox too, what is dividing line between Informatics and Toolbox item? Don't say STxAxTIC ;-))
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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2020, 03:18:20 pm »
I admit the theory of category hasn't been fully worked out yet, but theres something that differentiates games from other works, namely there is a clear target as to when its complete. That, and not all games present well as a Zip. Soon, there will hopefully be references to, but not explicit hosting of, well-established games that have gotten too big for us. That's why it's not a child group at the moment.
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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2020, 06:13:17 pm »
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Maybe Toolbox too, what is dividing line between Informatics and Toolbox item? Don't say STxAxTIC ;-))

LOL

Nah, so Toolbox as-is may or may not survive this whole thing, but for now I still think it's mission is well-stated and it sits right where it should be. 'Cause again: the toolbox is supposed to contain very tight, mostly parameter-free code that someone can just CTRL+V right into their program. In other words, if the method is more important than the thing being shown, it may be a Tool (formally).

Informatics as a section will make more sense when we open up a Math/Geometry child board as its brother. For instance, the line-intersecting-ellipse-and-all-that stuff we work on from time to time .... is that really a tool? Is it a 2D sample? Nah nah nah - its something else. Sometimes the code is about the applied math and zilch about how we show it.... that's where my head's at.
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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2020, 04:10:13 am »
I think that Games is good as a separate board.  It could even have Child Folders for different types of Games?  (Depends how large that board will become).  We, as ever, will discover how The Librarian wants to do it.

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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #68 on: March 03, 2020, 09:30:50 am »
I have added Terry Ritchie's InForm Calulator to the Samples Gallery.  This program has a number of factors which get it placed there:

i)  It is an excellent piece of coding and a really good working program
ii) It is by a highly gifted member
iii) It is an excellent advert for QB64 AND for InForm
iv) It has good descriptions in the code

I'm not, of course, going to comment upon every posting I put into Samples, but give here my selection criteria.

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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #69 on: March 03, 2020, 09:36:44 am »
@Ashish Here is a screenshot of your Samples Program.  It runs on my machine without sky rendering.  Odd.

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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #70 on: March 03, 2020, 10:19:41 am »
I have added Terry Ritchie's InForm Calulator to the Samples Gallery.  This program has a number of factors which get it placed there:

i)  It is an excellent piece of coding and a really good working program
ii) It is by a highly gifted member
iii) It is an excellent advert for QB64 AND for InForm
iv) It has good descriptions in the code

I'm not, of course, going to comment upon every posting I put into Samples, but give here my selection criteria.

For InForm samples it might be wise to attach the original zip as the author shared it, since it'll pack the library version the author originally used when coding the sample.

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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #71 on: March 03, 2020, 10:33:32 am »
@FellippeHeitor Good idea.  I was wondering how InForm-inexperienced persons would cope.

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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #72 on: March 03, 2020, 12:24:10 pm »
@bplus For entries into the Samples Gallery by STxAxTIC's convention, the title of the post contains the creator's name.  For the entry which you created, you had the title "Draw Spinners", and I have amended that to "Draw Spinners by bplus".  Once we both get used to doing this, this sort of thing will come naturally.

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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #73 on: March 03, 2020, 12:35:20 pm »
OK, I did not notice the title "by author" before thanks for pointing that out Qwerkey.

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Re: Samples Gallery
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2020, 02:29:31 am »
@Qwerkey It is working fine on my machine. All sky rendering is proper. But still, I am going to investigate this.
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