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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2018, 07:36:10 pm »
ROFL @ "laboriously typed all that crap!" I hear you. When I was in high school, back in those sexist days of the 70's, I vowed I'd never take some stupid worthless typing class. That was because I had no intention of growing boobs and becoming someone's secretary. Now I'm old, probably typed (coded) twice as much as anyone's secretary, and ended up growing boobs, anyway!

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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2018, 01:44:12 am »
ROFL @ "laboriously typed all that crap!" I hear you. When I was in high school, back in those sexist days of the 70's, I vowed I'd never take some stupid worthless typing class. That was because I had no intention of growing boobs and becoming someone's secretary. Now I'm old, probably typed (coded) twice as much as anyone's secretary, and ended up growing boobs, anyway!

Perhaps the sexism was on the wane by the time I hit HS. I went ahead and took the typing class, mostly because I thought IBM Selectrics were cool machines at the time, what with the little whirling dervish ball and all. Kinda wish I had one today. That was followed by a class on programming in Applesoft Basic, which reinforced the typing skills. Then in college daze ('83 onward), typing papers for other students on an Apple II with a 5.25" floppy and dot matrix printer kept the pizza and beer money flowing. It was one of the most important skills I ever acquired.


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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2018, 11:13:01 am »
I learned to type on an IBM Selectric in a high school business class while I was learning the intricacies of punch cards and COBOL.  The typing ended up being a better time investment than the punch cards did and yes, that ball could fly!

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« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2018, 01:18:56 pm »
Oh don't get me started on punch cards. Do anyone remember making a stack of 30 or 40 of those cards, just to do something as simple as a "Hello World" program? You know, when I think about, my aversion to typing and punch cards makes me wonder how I ever got hooked on computers in the first place. I suppose I can thank/blame premed for that. Everything needed to be typed, except for math stuff and PE. I still remember banging away at those Smith-Corona keys inot the late hours and if you were smart enough to buy stock in the manufacture of their removable correction cartridges, well, I'm the guy who paid for your retirement.

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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2018, 07:39:23 pm »
What's crazy about the punch card era is how much of that nonsense persists to this day... Actually it's not nonsense (because it made sense at the time), and it's actually kindof beautiful that some of those relics are around. Gives a kind hope to people hooked on the relic BASIC language, does it not?

I surely can't name them all, but one corpse we keep animated is ASCII. Sure we have a trillion unicode characters, but when I look down on my physical keyboard, its ASCII.

Then there's the 80-character limit that never went away. Terminal applications often terminate lines at 80 for a reason that traces back to actual terminals, as you all know.

Of course, I can't leave out horrendous way you need to code in COBOL. The punchcards are there in your face in a perverted digital way. Follow weird indentation patterns, blah blah. Just a bunch of yuck. The code was so damn verbose, and to rub it in, you end a line with a period as if you really were writing a sentence. Terrible. It was the Java of the 80's.

One thing that the kids will ask about is why the "save" and "open" icons are this weird plastic thing and this weird yellow thing. We'll have to explain "kids, before quantum storage was perfected, we couldn't write our data to the wall of a black hole like we do now. We'd save it on a magnetic plastic thing. Yeah, they broke. Oh, and 1.44 megs at best." And then you'd have to explain what an *actual* file system is... and when you're done, surely the kid will say "what's paper?"

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« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2018, 08:10:03 pm »
I'm surprised our FORTRAN guy, Dean (qbguy) hasn't chimed in by now.

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« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2018, 05:55:33 am »
My Lottery programs are only 3000 line max, but my data for them can extend to 10,000 lines depending on how many draws have been made and how far back I go, generally I go back at least 5 years. Russ
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« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2018, 01:11:25 pm »
First of all, welcome to all QB64 Members.
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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2018, 02:38:59 pm »
433 lines: Benford Bench.

Touched up on it on and off for 6 years. It is a digital analysis program using Benford's Law.

https://www.qb64.org/basbin/4B4B.txt

I developed it for my groups primary use to investigate time stamps of in election log data for Chicago to demonstrate admissibility of it's method for fraud detection.

I use this program and another team member uses his program in Fox Pro to solidify results.

Trouble is finding a control pool.
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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2018, 03:35:22 pm »
My Lottery programs are only 3000 line max, but my data for them can extend to 10,000 lines depending on how many draws have been made and how far back I go, generally I go back at least 5 years. Russ

Lottery program?

Anything like this ?

http://pagetelegram.com/piball.html


A lot less lines than 4k tho.
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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2018, 05:08:07 pm »
I just thought of something while reading this. you guys brought back tons of memories (visiting my uncle in the army, i could only type text, and no monitors, no mice LOL (wayyyyy back)
Then I thought back to the days of my first "real? home? pc?? tape-recorder HDD with counter of course, 13" b/w TV 2k ram and a WOOT!! additional 16k rampack!!" TIMEX SINCLAIR and thought - what should make a thread for the SMALLEST qb64 fully functional game/app right now - one liners welcome - although not sure about machine language if that count hahaha
I just like re-writing old DOS book games into modern QB64 code - weird hobby, I know!