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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2022, 12:26:05 pm »
Let me give you an example of a number that meets the criteria that I was looking for:

1234567818 = 2 * 31 * 1991239 -- only 3 unique primes which are the factors of the number.  (Of course 62 is a factor as well, but I didn't count it as I was breaking things down to search for the base primes for my solution, which, as I mentioned above, is quite a bit different that the problem that was apparently supposed to be solved.)

There's also numbers like 1234567812, which is 2 * 2 * 30864203, but it may not count as a solution as it doesn't have three distinct factors (2 is there twice, so it's not 3 unique numbers).

Needless to say, what I was working up takes just a wee bit longer to process and generate than a list for 4th roots, but it certainly makes more sense in the concept of storing and sorting the values of the factors.  With n ^ 4, as long as you run a loop from 1 to n, it's already sorted for you...
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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2022, 12:36:05 pm »
This looks like the solution to the problem you presented (I think, if we're interpreting the question properly):

Code: QB64: [Select]
  1. DefLng A-Z
  2. For i = 101 To 199 Step 2 'can remove all factors of 2 by default
  3.     If i ^ 4 >= 123456789 And i ^ 4 <= 223456789 Then
  4.         For j = 3 To Sqr(i) Step 2
  5.             If i Mod j = 0 Then Exit For 'not a primt
  6.         Next
  7.         If j > Sqr(i) Then Print i, i * i, i * i * i 'only prime numbers can be the solution.  Others have more factors and don't qualify.
  8.     End If

(As to why I limited my run from 100 to 200. it's because 100 ^ 4 is a 9 digit number, and 200 ^ 4 is a 10 digit number, making those both larger than our bounds.  100000000 is less than 123456789, and 16000000 is greater than 223456789. They were just arbitrary values which I mind quickly recognized as being beyond our limits, so I lazily plugged them in for testing and results.)
« Last Edit: February 12, 2022, 12:50:19 pm by SMcNeill »
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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2022, 01:13:15 pm »
Yes, those answers match the ones I got.

Here is how I worked it out:

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Here is the code I started testing for the Challenge:

Code: QB64: [Select]
  1. DefLng A-Z
  2. For i = 123456789 To 223456789
  3.     Locate 1, 40: Print i ' <<< progress report OMG! This is going to take far too long for 123456789+ numbers
  4.     test = ThreeDivisors&(i)
  5.     If test Then
  6.         row = row + 1
  7.         Locate row, 1
  8.         For j = 2 To i / 2 'show divisors
  9.             If i Mod j = 0 Then 'j divides i
  10.                 Print j;
  11.             End If
  12.         Next
  13.         Print " divides"; i
  14.     End If
  15. Locate row + 1, 1
  16. Print "End of run."
  17.  
  18. Function ThreeDivisors& (n)
  19.     For i = 2 To n / 2 ' count divisors
  20.         If n Mod i = 0 Then 'i divides n
  21.             count = count + 1: lastDivisor = i
  22.             If count > 3 Then Exit Function ' too  many divisors
  23.         End If
  24.     Next
  25.     If count = 3 Then ThreeDivisors& = lastDivisor

WTH? If this does 10 integers a second 100,000,000 integers will take
10,000,000 secs
=166,666 mins
=2777 hours
=115 days     Yikes! what's going on?


OK just try the code starting at the start and see what's going on:

Code: QB64: [Select]
  1. DefLng A-Z
  2. For i = 2 To 100000
  3.     Locate 1, 40: Print i ' <<< progress report OMG! This is going to take far too long for 123456789+ numbers
  4.     test = ThreeDivisors&(i)
  5.     If test Then
  6.         row = row + 1
  7.         Locate row, 1
  8.         For j = 2 To i / 2 'show divisors
  9.             If i Mod j = 0 Then 'j divides i
  10.                 Print j;
  11.             End If
  12.         Next
  13.         Print " divides"; i
  14.     End If
  15. Locate row + 1, 1
  16. Print "End of run."
  17.  
  18. Function ThreeDivisors& (n)
  19.     For i = 2 To n / 2 ' count divisors
  20.         If n Mod i = 0 Then 'i divides n
  21.             count = count + 1: lastDivisor = i
  22.             If count > 3 Then Exit Function ' too  many divisors
  23.         End If
  24.     Next
  25.     If count = 3 Then ThreeDivisors& = lastDivisor
  26.  

OH! We just need the first 4 powers of prime numbers !!!
because the divisors of i^4 are i, i^2 and i^3 easy!

OK so which integers to the 4th power lay between 123456789 and 223456789?
I ran this code:

Code: QB64: [Select]
  1. DefLng A-Z
  2. ' what is the first integer ^ 4 >= 123456789
  3. i = 2
  4. While i ^ 4 < 123456789
  5.     i = i + 1
  6. a = i ^ 4
  7. Print i, a
  8.  
  9. ' what is the last integer i st i ^ 4 <= 223456789
  10. While i ^ 4 <= 223456789
  11.     i = i + 1
  12. 'Ok backup i by 1
  13. a = (i - 1) ^ 4
  14. Print i - 1, a
  15.  
  16.  
'OK all i need are primes between 106 and 122!!!

Wow did that simplify our search for 3 divisors between 123456789 and 223456789

Final code:
Code: QB64: [Select]
  1. DefLng A-Z
  2. For n = 106 To 122 ' n^4 > 123456789 and n^4 < 223456789
  3.     'if n is prime print the divisors
  4.     Prime = -1
  5.     For j = 2 To Sqr(n)
  6.         If n Mod j = 0 Then Prime = 0: Exit For
  7.     Next
  8.     If Prime Then Print n; ", "; n ^ 2; ", "; n ^ 3; " divide"; n ^ 4
  9. 'verify my choice of n stop
  10. Print "Is 122 really the highest integer st i ^ 4 < 223456789 ?"
  11. a = 122 ^ 4 ' is 122 really the highest value < 223456789 ?
  12. b = 123 ^ 4
  13. Print "122 ^ 4 ="; a; " Is this <= 223456789  "; a < 223456789
  14. Print "123 ^ 4 ="; b; " Is this <= 223456789  "; b < 223456789
  15.  
  16.  

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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2022, 01:42:07 pm »
But I still have the question of:  "What's the point of sorting, if that's the solution?"

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For each found number, write down its largest nontrivial divisor in the answer. Arrange the answers in ascending order.

If sorting is going to be part of the problem, then I think my solution to break things down to base factors makes more sense. 

123456812 = 2 * 2 * 30864203
123456818 = 2 * 31 * 1991239

3 base factors (lowest common denominators), excluding the 1 and number itself, and with an order which would need storing and sorting.

Are you certain n ^ 4th is actually what we're supposed to be looking for here?  The sorting seems irrelevant if it is.
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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2022, 01:54:04 pm »
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But I still have the question of:  "What's the point of sorting, if that's the solution?"

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For each found number, write down its largest nontrivial divisor in the answer. Arrange the answers in ascending order.

Typical Russian Red Herring. :)  tsh73 teaches Computer Science in Russia, his English pretty good but some concepts hard to translate surely.

Remember we are talking Divisors of a number not factors or elements of the Divisors. (I think.)


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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2022, 02:54:23 pm »
I found this at Liberty Basic Forum (Feb 8) and so far nobody there has figured it out.

I just did but let's see if someone else can here at this forum:

tsh73

Who is the best programmer there? tsh, Rod, or technotitlick?

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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2022, 03:23:34 pm »
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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2022, 03:40:27 pm »
Who is the best programmer there? tsh, Rod, or technotitlick?

ME, of course!   😂😂
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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2022, 04:01:14 pm »
wow Steve, you also program in Liberty BASIC?

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Re: February Number Challenge
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2022, 05:09:55 pm »
wow Steve, you also program in Liberty BASIC?

Nope.  Never heard of it.  I'm just >THAT< good!  😁
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