QB64 Scra88le Board Game - Historical Copy

[Qwerkey]

This is a copy of my program which first appeared on [abandoned, outdated and now likely malicious qb64 dot net website - don’t go there], and there is nothing changed or added.  It is copied here because I am migrating all my work to here.  When you see "Historical Copy" in the title of a program submitted by me, you will know that it has already appeared and you will not need to waste your time opening the post if you have already used that program.

The program simulates a board game very similar to the commercial Scrabble game.  You play against the computer.  You will need to open the pdf file.

Richard

 

[johnno56]

Although the game is well made, I have some serious doubts, in regards to the internal 'dictionary'.

I have included an unfinished game, yes I know I am losing, but there are words used by the game that don't seem quite right.

"GORSIN" - no meaning; "UG" - no meaning; "ABA" - an abbreviation. 'Amateur Boxing Association' or 'American Bar Association' or 'American Booksellers Association'; "ECU" - an acronym from 'European Currency Unit"

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Extracted from scrabblepages.com

Accepted Scrabble Words

Any word that is found in a standard English dictionary can be used in the game of Scrabble. There are also Official Scrabble Dictionaries that can be purchased for more word options.

There are some words that are not allowed to be played and these include suffixes, prefixes and abbreviations. Any word that requires the use of a hyphen or apostrophe cannot be played in the game. Any word that required the use of a capital letter is not allowed.
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NO! Does that mean that "AMA" and "ECU" cannot be used?  I think your game has a mind of it's own... I do not think it likes losing... lol

Other than that, a great game!

[Qwerkey]

johnno, firstly thanks for trying it.  It is good to know that all the URL handles work properly now I'm my migrating my old work to .org.

Like you, I have concerns about the internal dictionary (see page 5 of the User Manual).  I got the dictionary file from an official (I think) Scrabble website with all those strange words in it.  I have never beaten the computer, but Steve McNeill (our wordsmith) has.  Also, I provide the capability to use your own dictionary if you so desire.

Richard

[SMcNeill]

Although the game is well made, I have some serious doubts, in regards to the internal 'dictionary'.

I have included an unfinished game, yes I know I am losing, but there are words used by the game that don't seem quite right.

"GORSIN" - no meaning; "UG" - no meaning; "ABA" - an abbreviation. 'Amateur Boxing Association' or 'American Bar Association' or 'American Booksellers Association'; "ECU"....

https://www.wordplays.com/scrabble-dictionary/goris

gori (ˈɡɔːriː)
n
informal Hinglish a White or fair-skinned female
[C21: Hindi]
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014

https://www.wordplays.com/scrabble-dictionary/aba

3 definitions for aba
- noun
1.   aba -- a loose sleeveless outer garment made from aba cloth; worn by Arabs
2.   aba -- a fabric woven from goat hair and camel hair
3.   aba, abas -- a sleeveless garment worn by Arabs

https://www.wordplays.com/scrabble-dictionary/ecu

1 definition for ecu
- noun
1.   ecu, ecus -- an old French coin


https://www.wordplays.com/scrabble-dictionary/ug

1 definition for ug
- verb
1.   ug, ugged -- to arouse loathing

[Qwerkey]

Yippee! The philological McNeill cavalry comes to the rescue of the distressed Qwerkey.

Richard

[johnno56]

Nice find Steve.

If memory serve correctly, Scrabble's official dictionary, is the Miriam-Webster Dictionary (3rd Edition). I could be wrong... It's been a loooong time since I played... (also scrabblewordfinder.org is a good source)

J

[SMcNeill]

Nice find Steve.

If memory serve correctly, Scrabble's official dictionary, is the Miriam-Webster Dictionary (3rd Edition). I could be wrong... It's been a loooong time since I played... (also scrabblewordfinder.org is a good source)

J

There's no single Scrabble Official Word List, as explained here: https://www.wordplays.com/official-scrabble-word-lists/

Scrabble® word lists are available in many languages for official tournaments, friendly games and brain training.  There is not a single official Scrabble® word list for a myriad of reasons, including the fact that different languages warrant the use of their own unique lists, languages evolve and opinions differ about permissible words applicable to any of the several variations of crossword board games based on Scrabble®.  Accordingly, just as lexicographers use restricted word lists of high-frequency words to produce simple definitions for published dictionaries, various word game player associations from different regions around the world produce an array of lexicons that are updated periodically and generally designate word lists differentiated by an edition number or the year of a particular version for competitive play. Word game aficionados generally reference the most renowned Scrabble word lists as acronyms, which are deciphered below with links to more detailed information about the most popular official and unofficial Scrabble word lists.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say Richard's dictionary is the Collins Word List for British tournaments, as all the words you didn't recognize were found in it.

CSW :: COLLINS SCRABBLE® WORDS (COLLINS)
The Collins Scrabble® Words word list, also known as simply Collins or the CSW, is the TWL counterpart for official British Scrabble® tournaments.  The Collins Scrabble® word list is sometimes referred to as CSTCWL, an acronym for Collins Scrabble Tournament and Club Word List.

It *is* an "official Scrabble list"; it's just not the one you're used to seeing and using in your part of the world.

Makes me wonder, since it's Brittish, can it use "color", "colour", or both versions of the spelling? 

Feel free to follow the link I posted above and grab one of the other wordlists which seem more natural and native to the region you live in.  From what I remember, it's easy enough to plug in a different dictionary into Richard's game here.  :D

[Qwerkey]

There's no single Scrabble Official Word List, as explained here: https://www.wordplays.com/official-scrabble-word-lists/

Makes me wonder, since it's Brittish, can it use "color", "colour", or both versions of the spelling? 

Thanks Steve, you have found the origin of the dictionary used with the program: the one I obtained from that official site is called "SOWPODS Europe".  Both "color" and "colour" are acceptable.

Richard

[bplus]

@bplus I know that you have already played Scra88le (mustn't use the copyrighted trade name!), so you don't need to spend more of your time on it (where do you find all the time from?).  It is in Programs here. https://www.qb64.org/forum/index.php?topic=344.msg2323#new

Hi Qwerkey,

As a matter of fact I have not played, might have helped with my vocabulary and spelling. If I had kids this is the kind of thing I would want them playing. It's a beautiful board, I am bumping this thread, you're welcome er ah, thanks for link update. Oh I see someone else inquiring of GORIS, wouldn't it be GORII?

You play against the computer.  You will need to open the pdf file

Alright! I don't need another human player...

Ideally the words would connect to dictionary (I mean definitions) because that is always what you want to see next for "ef" and "ug".FYI I did find Gora.

gora (redirected from Goris)
Also found in: Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
gora (ˈɡɔːrə)
n
informal Hinglish a White or fair-skinned male
[C21: from Hindi]

[SMcNeill]

FYI I did find Gora.

Mario and Luigi used it in The Forbidden Forest game zone as well:

Luigi:  “Mario...   Go’a on wiffout me.  The boar’a, it did gora me to’a death with it’sa tusk’as!”

[bplus]

Mario and Luigi used it in The Forbidden Forest game zone as well:

Luigi:  “Mario...   Go’a on wiffout me.  The boar’a, it did gora me to’a death with it’sa tusk’as!”

Oh, wem was that?

[Qwerkey]

Hi Qwerkey,

As a matter of fact I have not played

@bplus I was talking rubbish about you having played this before (getting confused with Mahjongg). And I have only just spotted that you have made recent replies to this post.  The strange words that this program uses: the dictionary is an official Scrabble dictionary.

[bplus]

@bplus I was talking rubbish about you having played this before (getting confused with Mahjongg). And I have only just spotted that you have made recent replies to this post.  The strange words that this program uses: the dictionary is an official Scrabble dictionary.

@Qwerkey
Does the dictionary come with definitions (I am thinking NOT because I have a dictionary for that game too but doesn't have definitions, it's just a straight words list.) 

I am serious about including a definitions lookup, I will offer my InputBox and MessageBox for that mission though I am certain you are perfectly capable of doing it your own way. Gotta say that would motivate me into learning this game quicker. Hate to get beat by AI with ridiculous words without at least some gain in vocabulary skills.

[Qwerkey]

@bplus As far as I know, this is just a word list.  Scrabble players are only interested in cramming as many words into their heads as possible and they have no desire to know anything about their meanings or etymologies.  If I get a chance I may look into where I originally got this dictionary from and see if there is any connection to a definitions table (I rather doubt it).

[bplus]

Scrabble players are only interested in cramming as many words into their heads as possible and they have no desire to know anything about their meanings or etymologies.

How in the world does that work without also learning something interesting about with the word? Associative learning is more fun than repetition more likely than eidetic memory (Big Bang- Sheldon's genius, see it took a dictionary to figure out the spelling for that. Oh hey, access to www would be even  better than dictionary, not cheating because I see you have a timer in your game too.)

Like I said, I am pretty sure the AI will wipe the floors with my personal vocabulary list but it would be worth it if learn something along the way.

Well before I continue to sell my idea, it's time to check out what the code looks like. No sense putting lipstick on a pig.

You know with Corona virus confining people to their homes, we have a duty to find interesting things people can do in solitary.