@Qwerkey ... thanks for addressing this... no hurry, no urgency, at your pleasure. I do try on my own to print off some of these great discussions and alternative thinking/application of some of these Basic syntech but there is no substitute for a well organized digital data base for learning anything. I refer a lot to Terry Ritchie's lessons but I thing there is a form of Moore's Law working on his lessons as QB64 comes up with the new and better coding ways.