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Title: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: FellippeHeitor on October 17, 2021, 10:27:27 am

We don't usually have a clear idea of the numbers, but we do have an idea that Windows users outnumber Linux and macOS users. Today I found a way to get stats for the downloads at our GitHub release page, and thought it'd be interesting to share it with you guys.

These are the stats, updated up to the time of posting this message, of all downloads for versions 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 2.0 (released a week ago) and 2.0.1 (released 9 hours ago).

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Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: FellippeHeitor on October 17, 2021, 10:41:15 am

Not forgetting there's always a big chance of bots loving our downloads, of course. But stats are still cool.

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: FellippeHeitor on October 17, 2021, 11:15:04 am

Quote from: FellippeHeitor on October 17, 2021, 10:41:15 am

Not forgetting there's always a big chance of bots loving our downloads, of course. But stats are still cool.

Although in that case I suppose the distribution between files would have been more uniform... anyway, stats are still cool.

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: RhoSigma on October 17, 2021, 11:39:09 am

Inded Fellippe, that are impressive numbers there. According to the member base in the forum my best guess had always been between 1000, 2000 or max. 3000, taking into account that some people need to download a couple of times because of interrupted downloads on bad internet lines. But these stats completly outnumber that guess, obviously there are much more hidden/quiet users, who simply take QB64 as is and never complain about bugs or participate in any discussions in the forum.

Especially the hike in numbers from v1.3 to v1.4 makes me curious. Something must happened here, which significantly increased the visibility of QB64 in the broader public and it would be even cooler to make this happen again.

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: bplus on October 17, 2021, 11:54:45 am

It's all those "professional" programmers who would be extremely embarrassed caught playing with a fun PL. ;-))

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: Pete on October 17, 2021, 12:01:18 pm

Damn bunch of closet FreeBASIC programmers, if you ask me!

Sadly all those stats prove is bots (as you mentioned) prefer Windows over Mac and Linux. Honestly, the only way to get meaningful stats is to use a counter in conjunction with captcha.

Pete

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: SMcNeill on October 17, 2021, 12:18:43 pm

One interesting thing the stats show: 90% of all users are Windows people. 

I’d always assumed Linux made up more than 5% of our user base.  QB64 has always tried so hard to keep every command cross-compatible; even to the point where new commands and features were put on hold because we couldn't sort out the Linux equivalent of WindowFunctionFoo or whatnot.  Might want to rethink that philosophy more as development moves on, after seeing the values here.  ;)

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: Pete on October 17, 2021, 12:21:46 pm

Yes, and sadly... QB64 will no longer support Linux XP... or Mac98. :D

Pete

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: bplus on October 17, 2021, 01:28:46 pm

Probably on lookers come from old QB and DOS and/or Windows OS, MS versions of early Basic

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: Pete on October 17, 2021, 01:46:02 pm

I think we should ask for it to be included in the Microsoft Store. Most of you might recall QBasic was included as part of Windows 3.1 and 98. Hey, maybe they'd include QB64 in whatever comes after Windows11 if we renamed the product... QBasic64 and, wait for it,... QuickerBASIC!

Pete

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: SMcNeill on October 17, 2021, 02:01:39 pm

Quote from: Pete on October 17, 2021, 01:46:02 pm

I think we should ask for it to be included in the Microsoft Store. Most of you might recall QBasic was included as part of Windows 3.1 and 98. Hey, maybe they'd include QB64 in whatever comes after Windows11 if we renamed the product... QBasic64 and, wait for it,... QuickerBASIC!

Pete

Part of the Windows 11 whole overhaul thing is supposed to be to get stuff in the Windows Store easier.  Someone really should see what hoops there are that we'd have to jump through to offer itthere.

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: Bert22306 on October 17, 2021, 05:10:51 pm

It's unclear to me whether development build downloads are included in the totals. That's all I ever download.

Interesting stats, though. Would be nice to start seeing numbers in the millions. I think that would be achievable, for example, as Steve suggests, to include QB64 in the Microsoft Store.

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: FellippeHeitor on October 17, 2021, 06:06:20 pm

These refer solely to the stable releases.

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: doppler on October 18, 2021, 02:29:37 pm

Quote from: Pete on October 17, 2021, 01:46:02 pm

I think we should ask for it to be included in the Microsoft Store.

Pete

To get in the store, we got to do a lot of boot licking (Microsoft).  And pay for a signed cert.  I am not licking anybodies boots.  Especially the "Thin Blue Line gang members."

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: Pete on October 18, 2021, 02:50:14 pm

Let's be optimistic we will always have a choice to distribute to all platforms in the future. I have a C-Cleaner app Windows has blocked from start up. It has always worked fine, but MicroSoft decided an update would make certain software no longer start. Instead, it displays a message that the software is not recommended for use and a product should be downloaded from the MicroSoft store to replace it!

Pete

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: bplus on October 18, 2021, 02:59:56 pm

Ah the good old days when we use to own our computers and decide what was put in them and when and where.

When we had the freedom to destroy out computers with incompatible product and every program fighting for being on top. Oh and the virus explosion when we started sharing disks and then using the Internet.

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: Dimster on October 18, 2021, 03:13:49 pm

That's huge numbers for 2020. I wonder if it's covid related. Maybe teachers and students downloading the program, or even IT personal connecting with staff at home. Be interesting to see how those numbers may relate to Countries or regions within countries.

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: Pete on October 18, 2021, 03:20:55 pm

That was me. I had a lot of memory issues last year. Kept downloading a copy every 5-minutes.

Pete

That was me. I had a lot of memory issues last year. Kept downloading a copy every 5-minutes.

Pete

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: FellippeHeitor on October 18, 2021, 03:44:23 pm

Quote from: Pete on October 18, 2021, 03:20:55 pm

That was me. I had a lot of memory issues last year. Kept downloading a copy every 5-minutes.

Pete

That was me. I had a lot of memory issues last year. Kept downloading a copy every 5-minutes.

Pete

🤣

Title: Re: QB64 download stats, from v1.3 to 2.0.1 (today)
Post by: Aurel on October 18, 2021, 03:46:44 pm

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One interesting thing the stats show: 90% of all users are Windows people

well
that is not surprise to me
windows & basic
linux  & python
crack...click...

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