Atari Portfoilio for Macintosh Users.

The following notes and information will help a new or prospective 

Mac/Portfolio user to get the most out of their  machines.



First and foremost. The portfolio is an excellent palmtop computer. It is great 

for many of those typical organization tasks like Addresses and Appointments. 

As a fully featured computer you will find yourself creating all sorts of great 

tools and files.  The only limit is of course memory and your creative use of 

this fact. You dont expect your briefcase to carry several file cabinets of 

information. You likely load up with the information you are currently working 

on or need at close reach always. Manage your Portfolio similarly.



To be truly productive you will want to transfer files from your Mac to the 

Portfolio. The Portfolio has a limited storage capacity and is powered by 

batteries most of the time. You want to back-up that 500 name client list, 

right? You may also be working on some facts and figures that it would be 

really helpful to have available when you are suddenly inspired while in a 

traffic jam.



The Atari Dealer Network does not fully understand Macintosh users and will 

need to know some things to get the Mac talking to the Portfolio. (Atari has 

been very helpful, dont get me wrong.)

1	The portfolio built in file transfer  is only for DOS machines. Dont 

even bother trying to make it talk to your Mac. You will need a Terminal 

Communications program for your Mac like Red Ryder, White Night, Microphone, 

Smart Com or the Microsoft Works built in communications program...  to 

recreate the file transfer facility.



2	You will need an Atari Serial Port Connector  which you will connect 

to the Mac modem port. If the Dealer has the HPC-407 Mac transfer cable you 

are in luck. If  not please see 3-6 below for complete details on what to do. 



3	The Serial Port  Connector has a different Pin configuration than the 

Mac requires so if the cable is not available locally and you like me have to 

have it right this very second NOW!  ...  Be paitient. The Atari Dealer 

probably has some of the parts and you can get the rest from a Mac Dealer. 



4	The Serial Port  Connector has a 9 pin female connection and the MAC 

has a  DIN-8 Modem port. I managed to hook them together (This is much easier 

than it sounds);  To Serial Port Connector attach a standard IBM Modem Cable or 

RS232 Serial cable. (These are essentially the same, the serial cable uses all 

25 pins and the Modem, only 9) You now have a cable from the Atari Serial Port 

Connector ending in a 25 pin RS232 connector.  If you have a modem for your Mac 

you likely have an  DIN-8 to 25 pin RS232 to make the connection.  If  not, 

that is the next step. Get one. Now your Mac has an RS232 cable attached to he 

modem port. 



5	You now have 2 - RS232 cables about to meet for the first time. They 

are both probably male fittings which is actually good as if you were to 

connect them now it wouldnt work. Both cables are configured exactly the same 

so your data coming in would collide with data coming out. You need a Nul Modem 

adaptor with Female fittings on both sides to straighten out  the connection. 

You may also need a Gender Bender (changer) to get the proper Male/Female 

orientation.



6 	You now have an IBM compatible modem cable connected to a Nul modem 

adaptor connected to a Gender Bender Adaptor (optional) connected to a standard 

Mac modem cable. Or a cable supplied by a dealler for the Mac Portfolio 

transfer process.





7	You will need Terminal software for the Portfolio. Xterm2.Com works 

wonderfully and is shareware. If the Dealer does not have it  available to 

transfer right now, Stop! Ask why not. Jump up and down that you simply must 

have it or the sale is off.  Go to a dealer who does have it. In Canada, the 

Dealer network can download the file directly from Atari to their site in about 

3 miniutes. There are no reasonalble excuses for selling the Serial Port 

interface to a Macintosh  user without appropriate portfolio terminal software 

and cables.



8	If you do not have a memory card think about getting at least 32K for 

backup purposes. The terminal program has to be loaded onto the Portfolio and 

if the batteries die you will lose the Terminal software and have to go back to 

the dealer to get it re-loaded.



9	Set up your Macintosh Terminal software:  Use standard X-Modem 

Protocol, 8 bit,1 stop bit, parity:  None. Disable Macbinary if the option is 

available. This is a standard default setting for most modems so everything 

should go right off the top.   



10	Start up Xterm2.com  on the Porfolio by typing Xterm2 at the Dos 

Prompt. The menu at the top of the Portfolio screen now shows a list of 

commands such as Quit [F1], Send [F2], Recieve[F3]...



11	To recieve a file from the Portfolio;  turn off Mac Binary Protocol 

in the file transfer preferences section of your Mac Communications program. 

Follow Xterms command to recieve the file. Type a path and name for the 

recieved file. EG c:newfile.xtm When you have both machines ready start 

sending the file from the Mac. Then start recieving at the Portfolio by hitting 

the return key. Done. 



To send a file is the reverse except that you are required to know the exact 

DOS path to the file you want to send. EG Drive,Directory,Filename. 

C:Numbers.WKS . Prepare your Mac to receive the file  first (setting Mac 

Binary to off). Set Xterm 2 to Send Mode. Type file name into the Portfolio and 

hit return. DONE! Easy as pie... 





Setting up the Portfolio (Dealers please take note)



Software:

The Atari Manual does not mention Macintosh anywhere. The Serial Port manual 

says Connects to Macintosh but there is no reference on how. Dont let your 

customer get stuck at home trying DOS commands on their Mac. There are lots of 

Macs out there and it is in everyones best interest to make the Portfolio easy 

to use.



DOS looks intimidating to a MAC user. Pathnames, /, : and the like are too 

typing and memory intensive to the graphically oriented Mac User. Dont scare 

them off by telling them DOS is better or  more powerful or anything... Show 

them The Absolutley Free (Ill toss it in as part of the package, valued 

customer!) File Manager by Atari.



By simply typing FM at the Dos Prompt just once the user is forever presented 

with a very helpful Menu of available files and programs. FM also has several 

great function menus to copy, delete, rename and reset clock and date. A neat 

and tidy way around DOSsy stuff like C:> Dir/p or C:> Copy Numbers.wks 

A:Numbers.BAK With a program size of 7k this program is a must have for most 

Mac Users.



As a terrifically informed dealer you can also help your client get started by 

Formatting their memory card and setting the Time/Date Functions while 

downloading Xterm2, FM and Updater. Mark Matlock has prepared an Installer 

Batch file that properly updates any portfolio. I will be suggesting a similar 

Installer file for every dealer to have available for Mac Users. I think this 

could be available for the end of October 91



Memory Management

If you are not going to be running any other software than the bundled group, 

FM and Xterm2, you will want to consider changing the Portfolio Memory 

allocation.  128k is available but  out of the box only 32K is available for 

storage. 7k for FM and 3K for Xterm2 leaves a miserly 22k for all your files. 



Great as it is the Portfolio is  limited in memory and after experimenting with 

some interesting games and programs I chose to stick with the onboard software 

and adjust my habits to the machines limits. After all I could have bought a 

$2000.00 laptop instead, right.  I decided that it was more important to have 

file space than lots of add on do-dads.  



Using the FDisk command (The manual explains this and other DOS commands 

admirably)  after backing up everything to a 128K memory card and the Mac , I 

set the memory to 64K. I have not  had any trouble with the onboard programs or 

Xterm or File Manager. The game Tetris complained about insufficeint memory but 

I really wanted a large address file and a few essential spread sheets more, so 

sorry Tetris. I find that I can carry lots of valuable info in 52K of space. I 

use the 128 Card as a backUp and a storage for less used files. I feel that I 

have lots of space now. A 2K spreadsheet can be very powerfull if you construct 

or adapt it to the portfolios limits.





Text file transfers

Any text file can be transfered to the Mac as a straight text file. (ASCII 

File) Any word processor will open the file once it is on the Mac Desktop. If 

you have used the Portfolios word wrap function you will have a very narrow 

column on the Mac word processor. There are several ways around this. Keep word 

wrap off always, use a utility to strip the returns from the file. Hugh 

Campbell recommended McSink which works excellently but has a shareware fee of  

$50.00. As a DA this program is well worth it. Strip 1.2.9 is a utility capable 

of the same thing but with out the intelegence of McSink. I am sure that there 

are Hypercard scripts and Portfolio batch files available. 



Once you get the hang of it youll be able to write correspondence while 

waiting for your lunch, and then updating your expenses while they process your 

bill. Later, you can transfer all the data to your Mac for further processing.



Worksheet transfers

Transfering a spreadsheet to the Porfolio from the Mac is the fastest way to 

get going. Keep in mind that only 5 rows by 3-5 columns will be visible at one 

time so dont expect to work on cash flow projections for the next 5 years. I 

keep my worksheets (WKS) brief and abbreviated. (Use the Function-5 option to 

maximize the portfolio screen) Plan them to have information inputs at the top 

of the file so I can scroll or go to the results . Design your Worksheets with 

the Mac Window reduced to emulate the portfolio for best results. 



The most valuable Worksheet is a Bank Book which calculates your current 

balance for you. Look for a generic Bank.WKS file soon. I also have several 

complex What if...  worksheets that use extensive lookup tables and  complex 

data input and output. Dont be shy, give it a try. Just keep in mind that 3 

AA batteries and 128K for a couple hundered bucks is a long way from 4Megs 

and a hard drive connected to a muncipal power plant.





Compuserve to the RESCUE





The following is a thread of messages that  I discovered on Compuserve while 

attempting to find out what a serial-port-interface-nul-modem-gender-bender-cable was...  I have included it for several reasons.  I could not have come 

this far with out  Don, Hugh, Reina and Larrys help. I felt that I was not 

alone in my crusade to teach my Mac to speak Portfolio. I owe them many thanks 

and this help file is a way for me to put something in for the next crusader.



Some of the technical discussions are very enlightening, and you should know 

how helpful any forum can be from the variety of valuable contributions made.



George Gooderham October 21 1991



#: 16421 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    07-Sep-91  09:58:29 Sb: Mac connectivity Fm: Larry Land 73765,605 To: 

George

Gooderham 70274,3060 (X)



George...If all else fails you can get a little jewel called a SmartCable which 

will

just about automatically connect any two serial devices.  I've used one for a

long time and it's great. It's $49 from Jensen Tools (among others). Jesen is 

at

602-968-6231.  Hope this helps. Computasaurus--->  

                            -=Larry

73765,605=-





#: 16509 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    08-Sep-91  06:04:49 Sb: #MAC cables Fm: Reina Pennington 73040,307 To:

George Gooderham 70274,3060 (X)



Save yourself a lot of trouble -- order a cable from Will Davis at Able Cables

(415-457-4028). It's $20 and no headaches. That's why I did, and my Port talks 

to

my Mac quite happily. Use XTerm2 on the Port, and I'm using ZTerm on the Mac.

Tell the Mac to "Receive XModem file" first, then have the Port send the file. 

You

can leave the MacBinary settings on for Port to Mac transfers, but change it to

Text for any files you send from the Mac to the Port.



You should also get a little utility called Add/Strip 2.9.2, if you don't 

already have it

(I downloaded it and ZTerm from one of the Mac forums), which will clean up the

Port text files for your Mac word processor.



Have fun!



#: 16544 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    08-Sep-91  12:50:15 Sb: #16509-MAC cables Fm: Hugh J. Campbell 70611,3212 

To:

Reina Pennington 73040,307



I would add one suggestion, look for a desk accessory for the Mac called d

"McSink".  It is a full featured text editor which not only adds and strips 

controls, but

also will add line numbers, does global search/replace, convert tabs,etc.  I 

find

it extremely useful, particularly as an editing environment for PBasic

programming on the Mac... Hugh



#: 16414 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    07-Sep-91  00:58:15 Sb: Mac connectivity Fm: Don Thomas 75300,1267 To: Hugh 

J.

Campbell 70611,3212 (X)



I can tell you that I know no more about MACS than I do Sinclair Z-80s, but I 

have

connected the MAC and made the procedure work on numerous demos. I

agree that since the MAC world is convinced that this just can't be done, it's

sometimes hard to get the facts together. But I do know, that once you get it 

all

together, it will work like a charm every time.



Perhaps it will help if I describe what you're actually doing briefly.



In essence, you are setting both the MAC and the Port up seperately as if you

were going to call CompuServe up on both of them at the same time. The only

difference is that the null-modem cable bypasses any modem and connects

the serial ports together.



I know the MAC has a DIN-8 (also known as a circle 8) serial port. I also know 

that

modem cables are readily available to connect that DIN-8 to a standard

Hayes modem. The end that goes into the modem may be the wrong gender,

but it is essentially what goes into the serial port of the Portfolio. If you 

have (or

obtain) a null-modem adapter, you would simply place that between the

Portfolio's serial Interface and the end of the cable that normally goes into 

the

modem.



Then you need to run communications software on both computers. Remember

that the built-in File Transfer software is not intended for this, you will 

have to run

slave or a communications program. To transfer a file from the Port, you would

prepare an Xmodem upload. On the MAC you would prepare an Xmodem

download. I use this method to transfer files to my Atari ST.



Since communications programs often time out, I usually set both up with their

commands up to the final RETURN, I review my entrees, then press RETURN on

both machines at the same time.



If it would be easier for you, the HPC-407 cable has been available for quite

some time. We have NEVER been out of them. Your dealer simply isn'rt bothering

to order it. If you want, I'll be happy to take your order. Then you'll know 

that

you're getting the right cable.



Another tip is to make certain the Serial Interface is initialized through the 

Set-Up

menu. You also must make certain that the baud rate, stop bits, parity and data

bits match on both systems.



Other MAC users on line may be able to assist as well.



Hope that helps.



#: 16420 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    07-Sep-91  08:57:52 Sb: #16415-#Mac connectivity Fm: Steve Liberty 

71450,2341

To: Don Thomas 75300,1267 (X)



Don, That was a great explaination of something that confounded me several

years back (now I do understand it, but where were you then?). It is actually 

the

exact same procedure that a DOS user might use if he had to move files

between a desktop and a laptop WITHOUT Laplink (it is slow, but it works). I 

also

used this procedure in the old days to move files between a DEC Rainbow and

a PC whose disks are generally incompatible. Sometimes I forget that Port users

aren't always heavily into the PC as I am, but your support certainly helps 

bridge

the gap. Steve





#: 16446 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    07-Sep-91  14:03:47 Sb: #16420-#Mac connectivity Fm: Don Thomas 75300,1267 

To:

Steve Liberty 71450,2341 (X)



Thanks Steve,



You're right. People think that null-modem transfers is a NEW technology, but 

it's

been around since modems. It wasn't used much on the consumer level since it

didn't used to be practical to move around mainframes or design mile long

cables. Now that computers are so portable, null-modem transfers are very

practical and can be essentially performed between ANY two computers. The

Portfolio is the PERFECT tool to do this regardless of the platform of whatever

computer use wish to share information with.



Since the exact connectors on the cable may vary and since the software also

varies, it induces enough confusion that many people conclude it can't be

done or it's too difficult to try. This is compounded by the fact that Radio 

Shack

employees (actually any electronics store) often tell customers they never

heard of such a thing and believe it's a fanatasy.



We've had numerous people call us and tell us that Radio Shack employees

told them that they don't sell anything that would ever connect to an Atari

computer. I was so upset that I called the cable buyer in Fort Worth. He

proceeded to tell me the same thing and cited the I/O connector on our 8-bit

line. We began replacing our 8-bit line 10 years ago (+/-). Our 16-bit desktop

computers were among the first designed for the consumer and offer FULL PC

standard ports and I/O protocol. The cable buyer said that was interesting, but

he couldn't communicate the info to all of his stores.



The point is that the consumer has to educate himself. Just like riding a bike. 

No

one can say anything that can help you feel what you have to feel in order to

maintain balance and ride a bike. Once you do, however, it's as easy as

anything can be and you never forget.





#: 16440 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    07-Sep-91  13:36:10 Sb: #16415-#Mac connectivity Fm: Hugh J. Campbell

70611,3212 To: Don Thomas 75300,1267 (X)



Don, Maybe you can clarify two points.  If Port to Mac transfers using XTerm a 

or

ACOM work over a cable, should that same cable connection work with Slave? I

don't want to buy new cables just to try out SLAVE and my conection has been

working with these other COMM programs.



The second question is, do you know if a "handshake" should be set on the Mac

communications side?  I have tried Microphone II and VersaTerm Pro and both

have options for XOn/Xoff, Hardware or No handshake (Frankly, I don't have a

clue what this is all about and I have tried numerous settings).  I am 

determined

to get SLAVE to work with the Mac.  Thanks... Hugh





#: 16448 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    07-Sep-91  14:09:42 Sb: #16440-#Mac connectivity Fm: Don Thomas 75300,1267 

To:

Hugh J. Campbell 70611,3212 (X)



The easiest way to answer this that I can think of is to set up both computers 

with

communications software. If what you type on one screen, shows up on the

other, you're connected exactly as you should be to run SLAVE on the Portfolio.



I am not a MAC expert and always rely on the MAC user to set his

communications software for Xmodem send or receive when performing

demos. I know other MAC users are on this forum and I'm sure one or more can

step in to help with the settings on the MAC end.





#: 16483 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    07-Sep-91  19:16:03 Sb: #16448-Mac connectivity Fm: Hugh J. Campbell

70611,3212 To: Don Thomas 75300,1267 (X)



Don, OK I'm past the first step.. I am confident that the cable setup is OK. I 

may try

to download another copy of SLAVE.  I cannot get past the message on the Port

screen "Initialising...".  This occurs when I try it with my Mac as well as 

when I try it

with my T1000 (PC).  Any suggestions from you Mac folks out there?  Thanks... 

Hugh





#: 16510 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    08-Sep-91  06:04:55 Sb: #Mac connectivity Fm: Reina Pennington 73040,307 

To:

Hugh J. Campbell 70611,3212 (X)



Hugh, in case you missed my reply to George --



Save yourself a lot of trouble -- order a cable from Will Davis at Able Cables

(415-457-4028). It's $20 and no headaches. That's why I did, and my Port talks 

to

my Mac quite happily. Use XTerm2 on the Port, and I'm using ZTerm on the Mac. 

It

limits me to transferring one file at a time, but it gets the job done!



There is 1 Reply.





#: 16543 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    08-Sep-91  12:46:06 Sb: #16510-Mac connectivity Fm: Hugh J. Campbell

70611,3212 To: Reina Pennington 73040,307



Reina, my problem right now is not with XTerm or ACOM, I've been using them

with my Mac with no trouble for a year and a half.  My current problem is 

trying to

get the program SLAVE to work with the MAC.  I don't think my problem is my

cable since these other programs are working.  I've also tried every possible

cable connection with no luck.  Have you tried SLAVE.EXE with your Mac?  I'd

appreciate any input... Hugh





#: 15496 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    24-Aug-91  13:01:39 Sb: MAC file transfers Fm: Hugh J. Campbell 70611,3212 

To:

SYSOP*Ron Luks 76703,254 (X)



Ron, Let me just suggest one thing with MacBinary.  The rule is that every 

binary

file should be transferred to/from the Port with MacBinary disabled. When you

transfer text files to and from a Mac, which I do often since I write PBasic 

code on

a Mac and then send it to the Port, the rules change. When sending text files 

TO

the Port disable MacBinary.  When sending text files from a Port TO a Mac use

MacBinary.  This results in properly formatted Afiles on both machines. ...Hugh



#: 17031 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    12-Sep-91  18:34:47

Sb: #16989-Mac Connectivity

Fm: Hugh J. Campbell 70611,3212

To: George Gooderham 70274,3060



George,  a couple of questions... How did you get SLAVE onto your Port, if you

don't have a comm program (XTerm or ACOM) on your Port?  What Mac

Communications program are you using?  I'm going to give SLAVE one more try

this weekend and if I don't get it going I'll give up.  So far XTerm on the

Port and Microphone II on the Mac has been sufficient.  Microphone lets you

create buttons to automate most down/up load procedures so its pretty easy. 

I'll let you know if I get SLAVE running... Hugh





Hugh I got the prog Slave from a guy who had it on card and transported it to 

my portfoilio in a DOS copy mode. He is an Atari user. How to use it is a 

mystery to both of us!  I am using SmartComII in direct-connect on a null modem 

set up as reccomended by Don Thomas.



I have Xterm2 on my Mac so you can imagin how frustratrating this is. I haven't 

found any one in Toronto with a copy on Card yet.I have tried everything but 

all I get is an Initialising...  Message on the Port and a still cursor on 

the Mac. When I turn the port off , I do get a beep so something is connected 

to something. Weird Science....



Good luck buddy I'm still hunting for a solution cause I need the connectivity

for the port to be really useful.

Geo



#: 17058 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    12-Sep-91  23:15:16

Sb: #17055-Mac Connectivity

Fm: Hugh J. Campbell 70611,3212

To: George Gooderham 70274,3060



George, When I first got my Portfolio I spent hours trying to "bootstrap"(?) a

copy of XTerm from my Mac to the Port.  This mysterious procedure involves

serial transfers controlled from a host machine (Mac) to the Port... Needless

to say, it never worked.  I broke down and bought a parallel port, borrowed a

DOS machine and transfered XTerm to the Port with the built in FT program.  I

have since found the parallel port to be a useful investment.  I often find

myself needing to print a hardcopy in the field somewhere and invariably you

find parallel printers at most sites.  They've come down in price so you may

want to consider this alternate route. Good Luck... Hugh





Thanks Hugh, I have the serial port connector and I got a copy of xterm2

from Atari Canada on Friday . The portfolio not is very happy talking to the

Mac. Great when it works. I'd like to create a Mac Help Guide for othrers

who follow this thorny trail.  Do you have both serial and parallel ports?

How do you carry the parts around?  Thanks for all your help. I will be back to

you soon with more news.



#: 17071 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    13-Sep-91  03:59:10

Sb: #16988-Mac Conectivity

Fm: Don Thomas 75300,1267

To: George Gooderham 70274,3060



I am anxious to hear an expedient resolution for you!



 REPLY: Thanks Don, Here it is... When in trouble grab the dragon by the 

head...I

went up to Atari Canada  offices and introduced myself to Rob McGowan and 

explaned my dilema. He was really helpful and I now have XTERM2 on my 128 Card.

This Portfolio is fantastic. However the Mac Connection needs to be made

simpler. It says on the Box Mac compatible... But there is no documentation.

I am saving a list of what works and does not and plan to create a Mac Self 

help file for this BBS. I would also like to see the Dealer network get the

process in order so that a mac user with a serial port  knows that and gets 

what  is

needed at the time of purchase. This is a great machine and the consumer

should be able to get it up and running easily. More later. Thanks.



#: 17293 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    15-Sep-91  22:35:17

Sb: #17278-Mac Connectivity

Fm: Hugh J. Campbell 70611,3212

To: George Gooderham 70274,3060



George,  I think you're going to find XTerm is an excellent and stable comm

program.  I keep Xterm on my C drive (FDisk 8) and (*VERY Important*) a backup

copy of XTerm on a card.  I do have both serial and parallel ports.  I usually

leave the parallel port in the office and carry the serial port around with the

Port.  Since I use a Land's End soft attache case, which has three pockets

inside of a perfect size for the Port, its easy to throw the serial port in.  I

use a Worldport 2400 Modem from Touchbase and I made a small cable to carry on

the road.  I wish someone would make a modem the size of a serial port which

plugged into the Port and had a serial throughport so I could carry just one

thing.  I have gotten to the point where my Port is an extension of my Mac and

I'm finding ways to make the interface more seamless... Hugh





#: 17302 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    16-Sep-91  00:27:19

Sb: #17279-Mac Conectivity

Fm: Don Thomas 75300,1267

To: George Gooderham 70274,3060



I agree. In fact I heard Apple did a video to train their dealers on how it's

done, but I haven't heard any more since we sent someone to them to show them

how it's done!



I've tried to offer tips and hints in A.P.B. I have found that the entire issue

seems to confuse people (as it did me) until they've simply done it themselves

once or twice. However, I think detailed instructions would be fruitful and

beneficial. I wanted to get more about that stuff ion the newest manual, but we

were on a kick to reduce pages since people were screaming that the old manual

had too much infomation.





#: 17331 S10/Mac-to-PORTFOLIO

    16-Sep-91  11:50:06

Sb: #17278-Mac Connectivity

Fm: SYSOP*Ron Luks 76703,254

To: George Gooderham 70274,3060



   We've seen the extra problems that MAC owners have interfacing with the

Portfolio (not necessarily caused by the Portfolio as much as by the MACs

operating system) and we'd *love* to have a MAC HELP FILE available.  If I can

help you in the creation of this helpfile (with free access to this forum)

please let me know.



   Ron Luks

